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09:03 <kaniini> fabled, ncopa http://i.imgur.com/75C8u0S.png
09:04 <skarnet> kaniini: sanity check: is the GUI separate from the package manager? (iow can I get apk without X?)
09:05 <kaniini> yes
09:05 <kaniini> it just runs apk as a child process
09:05 <skarnet> ah, so "package manager" is a gui wrapper
09:05 <skarnet> ok, thanks :)
09:06 <kaniini> oh
09:06 <kaniini> you can actually set the text of the window via CLI
09:06 <kaniini> --status-str, --title-str
09:06 <kaniini> i have reasons for this :D
09:06 <skarnet> in the wrapper, not in apk, I guess
09:07 <kaniini> yes
09:07 <kaniini> for example, you can do
09:07 <kaniini> apk-gtk --title-str 'Updating' --status-str 'Applying system updates' upgrade --available
09:08 <skarnet> the new nifty options such as --available are passed as is to apk?
09:08 <kaniini> yes
09:08 <kaniini> but --available is not new :p
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09:23 <TemptorSent> Good evening.
09:28 <TemptorSent> Slick kaniini.
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09:45 <TemptorSent> Alright, I'm too tired to continue coding -- still need to finish profile and mkinitfs surgery.
09:48 <TemptorSent> G'night all.
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20:15 <kaniini> https://github.com/kaniini/apk-gtk
20:17 <asie> sometimes, i think about working on a desktop environment repo overlay for alpine (based on xfce, with properly configured GUI-based configuration management, a selection of lightweight software and themes, etc.)
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22:28 <tmh1999> anyone running alpine x86_64 on x86_64 machine ? Simple command like this $ qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom alpine_x86_64/alpine-vanilla-3.5.2-x86_64.iso -m 1024 -nographic gives me no output.
22:30 <tmh1999> Tried -curses, boot ok then stuck at "1024 x 768 Graphic mode"
22:49 <TemptorSent> tmh1999 : passing the noautodetect kernel flag should get you past the vid output issue.
22:49 <TemptorSent> tmh1999 : It's running a display server by default, and isn't built with SDL support. Yeah - it bit me too :)
23:03 <tmh1999> TemptorSent : Thank you !
23:05 <tmh1999> TemptorSent : how do you pass the kernel flag to qemu ?
23:06 <tmh1999> TemptorSent : do you run qemu with other options ? Something like just the kernel image and the initrd image
23:06 <tmh1999> thus, without the whole ISO image
23:11 <TemptorSent> tmh1999 just boot the iso as normal, then when it comes to the boot prompt type 'grsec (or virtgrsec) noautodetect'
23:12 <tmh1999> well, I cannot even get to the boot prompt
23:12 <tmh1999> hum
23:12 <tmh1999> you use -nographic or -curses ?
23:12 <TemptorSent> tmh1999 : the pxe boot loader the qemu starts
23:12 <TemptorSent> using -curses
23:12 <TemptorSent> using -nographic you'll need to connect using VNC or spice
23:14 <tmh1999> hum, it goes straight to OpenRC without a pause for me to enter any kernel argument
23:16 <tmh1999> I use vanilla, is it the cause ?
23:16 <TemptorSent> tmh1999 : hold down space as it boots.
23:16 <TemptorSent> oh, in that case, you'll type 'vanilla noautodetect'
23:17 <tmh1999> oh right I forgot the space stuffs ... Thanks
23:25 <tmh1999> TemptorSent : it returns "Loading vanilla...failed: No such file or directory"
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23:28 <tmh1999> TemptorSent : ha it's good now :)
23:29 <TemptorSent> Cool, good deal.
23:33 <TemptorSent> tmh1999: are you using virtio drivers?
23:34 <tmh1999> TemptorSent : I am running without it first then try it afterwards.
23:36 <TemptorSent> tmh1999: Okay, let me know how it works for you... I'm getting random 'illegal instructions' for some reason, but I haven't identified the source.
23:36 <tmh1999> you run other arch or x86_64 ?
23:36 <TemptorSent> x86_64 at current
23:37 <TemptorSent> building env to cross-build to aarch64
23:37 <tmh1999> I thought fabled has done cross-build for aarch64 ?
23:38 <tmh1999> well I am trying to make mkinitfs work with s390x
23:38 <TemptorSent> tmh1999: Ahh, then you're in a special level of hell like me :)
23:38 <TemptorSent> Trying to delve the depths of mkinitfs/update-kernel.
23:39 <TemptorSent> I'm trying to get it to build minimal initrds, which I've got down now...
23:39 <TemptorSent> The next part is getting modloop trimmed to size.
23:39 <tmh1999> TemptorSent : my hell-level fellow :)
23:40 <tmh1999> right
23:40 <TemptorSent> Currently, I'm down to a 50mb iso... most of that is the bloody modules!
23:40 <tmh1999> how does aarch64 boot ? from ISO, or just kernel + initrd images ?
23:40 <TemptorSent> aarch64 profiles I was building were uboot based.
23:41 <tmh1999> yeah modules take lots of spaces
23:41 <TemptorSent> ..essentially, I was trying to get it to build the existing profiles under the new infrastruture and do it across archs.
23:41 <TemptorSent> Right now, I'm working on trimming up the profiles a bit.
23:42 <TemptorSent> Next trick is to make the profiles able to be built for various base-types by just changing a flag.
23:43 <tmh1999> that seems tough. I haven't got there ...
23:43 <TemptorSent> I have it implemented in mkimage now actually, but mkinitfs is the bottleneck.
23:44 <TemptorSent> I'm runnining a fairly modified version to play with minimal modules required to boot.
23:45 <TemptorSent> tmh1999: Where I really need the help is building more granual features for mkinitfs.
23:47 <TemptorSent> For instance, I created a scsi-base with just scsi_mod, sd_mod, sr_mod, and sg and ata-ahci with just ahci, libahci, and libata
23:50 <TemptorSent> 12.5mb of 50 is modloop, 26mb for all packages. The kernel is 3.5, and the initramfs is only 2.8!
23:51 <TemptorSent> And that's with alpine-base, not a skeleton layout too.
23:51 <TemptorSent> What's the status on the s390 stuff?
23:51 <tmh1999> I just started reading mkinitfs code ...
23:52 <tmh1999> I don't have much exp in this
23:53 <TemptorSent> *lol* mkinitfs isn't exactly transparent either.
23:53 <TemptorSent> Did you look at my mkimage tree yet?
23:53 <tmh1999> where's that ?
23:54 <TemptorSent> https://github.com/TemptorSent/aports/tree/mkimage-refactor-scripts/scripts/mkimage
23:54 <TemptorSent> Still in a state of major flux refactoring everything, but getting usable.
23:55 <tmh1999> Oh you are in CA ?
23:56 <TemptorSent> Yeah, about half way between sacramento and tahoe essentially
23:57 <TemptorSent> Up in the sierra foothills, but below the main snow-line.
23:58 <tmh1999> cool I am currently in CA now. About to catch a flight back to NY. Good to have someone with close timezone
23:58 <tmh1999> it must be tough for you
23:58 <tmh1999> other dev mostly in Europe
23:59 <TemptorSent> tmh1999: Yeah, the all-nighter coding sessions aren't nearly so easy as they once were, that's for sure!