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01:04 <luxio> How do I fix my time? `date` says this: Sun Apr 23 17:03:58 EDT 2017
01:04 <luxio> Interestingly enough, xfce displays the correct time.
01:04 <luxio> It's 9:04 PM where I live.
01:05 <luxio> nvm fixed.
01:06 <Shiz> you set the TZ variable
01:06 <luxio> wait no
01:06 <Shiz> :P
01:06 <luxio> ?
01:06 <Shiz> in your ~/.profile
01:06 <Shiz> immunity:~$ cat ~/.profile
01:06 <Shiz> export TZ=Europe/Amsterdam
01:07 <luxio> Shiz: I don't have that file
01:07 <Shiz> you create it
01:07 <Shiz> also apk add tzdata for that to work
01:07 <luxio> Shiz: what now?
01:08 <Shiz> set TZ to your actual timezone
01:08 <Shiz> then re-open your shell
01:08 <Shiz> it should work now
01:08 <Shiz> (in ~/.profile)
01:08 <luxio> brb
01:08 <kaniini> Shiz: banning is not doing, allah is doing
01:09 <Shiz> allah is not banning, kaniini is banning
01:09 <Xe> xD
01:10 <Shiz> danke
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01:11 <kaniini> i use matrix because it is easiest to get push notifications to my phone, so it took a minute to figure out how to make their janky IRC gateway set a ban
01:11 <kaniini> :p
01:11 <luxio> alright yeah the time seems to work now
01:11 <luxio> but tor still isn't starting
01:11 <luxio> it's stuck at Apr 23 21:09:57.000 [notice] Bootstrapped 100%: Done
01:12 <Xe> luxio: is it not opening ports?
01:13 <luxio> Xe: how do I find out?
01:13 <kaniini> ryonaloli: serious question do you actually use alpine
01:14 <psychi[m]> 😄
01:14 <Xe> luxio: netstat -tnlp
01:15 <luxio> Xe: https://ghostbin.com/paste/zd6gp
01:15 <Xe> luxio: what does your torrc look like?
01:15 <luxio> Xe: I don't think I have one
01:16 <Xe> ah
01:16 <Xe> it's binding to port 9050, that's a good sign
01:16 <Xe> do you have torsocks/torify installed?
01:17 <luxio> I don't see a torify package but I just did apk add torsocks
01:17 <luxio> didn't seem to help
01:17 <luxio> still no torrc
01:17 <Xe> yeah, it should fallback to default settings then
01:17 <Xe> lemme check my notes (I am the tor maintainer for alpine)
01:17 <luxio> Apr 23 21:16:47.063 [notice] Configuration file "/etc/tor/torrc" not present, using reasonable defaults.
01:18 <TemptorSent> Thank you kaniini!
01:19 <TemptorSent> We need an 'allah is not doing, banning is done' bot :)
01:20 <Xe> TemptorSent: i made one for mastodon: https://mst3k.interlinked.me/@almarid
01:20 <TemptorSent> Nice :)
01:20 <Xe> it's shuffling through /usr/share/dict/words
01:20 <kaniini> that guy is a troll
01:21 <kaniini> he is trying to make people think that muslims spam
01:21 <kaniini> i called him out on it once on some irc channel
01:21 <kaniini> he said fuck you and quit
01:22 <mepholic> ncopa: lol
01:22 <mepholic> you built a hydrogen package?!
01:22 <TemptorSent> Spammers can fuckoffanddie
01:22 <mepholic> are you into music?
01:22 <mepholic> like creating music?
01:23 <mepholic> ncopa: I built ardour for alpine
01:23 <TemptorSent> I don't care what flavor, I hate it, but regligious spam is particularly obnoxious.
01:23 <mepholic> I'm having a buddy review my packages, I'll submit them soon
01:23 <Xe> luxio: default config in alpine:edge works for me, try $ torsocks curl https://check.torproject.org/
01:23 <TemptorSent> mepholic: Hmm, how much of the audio-processing chain have you packaged?
01:23 <Xe> pipe it to less of unsure
01:23 <Xe> if*
01:24 <mepholic> TemptorSent: what do you mean the audio-processing chain?
01:24 <mepholic> if you're asking about the dependencies
01:24 <mepholic> all of them
01:24 <mepholic> it took like 12 hours of dicking around yesterday
01:24 <mepholic> but i did it
01:24 <mepholic> and it mostly works
01:24 <TemptorSent> mepholic: Nice!
01:24 <TemptorSent> mepholic: JACK backend?
01:24 <mepholic> yep
01:25 <mepholic> i havent tested it yet
01:25 <TemptorSent> Any RT optimization?
01:25 <mepholic> i need to build a qjackctl backend
01:25 <mepholic> and no RT stuff yet
01:25 <luxio> Xe: https://ghostbin.com/paste/9nza3
01:25 <TemptorSent> Gotcha.
01:25 <mepholic> would be cool if we could get some guys together to build an rt kernel
01:25 <TemptorSent> mepholic: Keep me in the loop on it, I'm highly interested.
01:25 <mepholic> i know a bit about it, but I'd like some advice
01:26 <TemptorSent> I haven't played with the hardrt stuff since 2.6 era, but recent sched_rt improvements might be sufficient to get latency controlled.
01:26 <Xe> luxio: $ echo "HI" | nc 127.0.0.1 9050
01:26 <Xe> it'll make tor shit out an error message
01:27 <Xe> does that work?
01:28 <luxio> Xe: doesn't output anything
01:28 <mepholic> TemptorSent: http://i.imgur.com/UPkXTU8.jpg
01:28 <Xe> luxio: you upgraded to the latest tor?
01:28 <luxio> oh, tor wasn't running. DURR.
01:28 <Xe> oh
01:28 <Xe> that'd do it
01:28 <Xe> xD
01:29 <Shiz> lol
01:29 <luxio> Xe: http://termbin.com/7q45
01:29 <Xe> yeah
01:29 <Xe> tor takes ~3 min to spin up
01:29 <Shiz> and now oyu can use torsocks
01:29 <Shiz> prolly
01:30 <Xe> Shiz: IME 3 minutes is the sweetspot
01:30 <TemptorSent> Looking good mepholic!
01:30 <Xe> luxio: suggestion: service start tor && sleep 3 && echo "HI" | nc 127.0.0.1 9050
01:30 <Xe> wait
01:30 <Xe> that's seconds not minutes
01:30 <Shiz> lol
01:31 <Xe> i've been on a plane for too long
01:31 <Xe> and these freenode spambots are trying to send me antivirus false positives in a PM
01:31 <luxio> * service: service `start' does not exist
01:31 <luxio> heheh
01:32 <mepholic> TemptorSent: i did see one
01:32 <mepholic> Apr 23 00:03:35 cataclysm kern.info kernel: [433936.782580] traps: ardour-5.8.0[7220] general protection ip:7fdeca7587ad sp:7fff37392f78 error:0 in ld-musl-x86_64.so.1[7fdeca735000+88000]
01:32 <Shiz> it's service tor start
01:32 <Shiz> not service start tor
01:32 <mepholic> :<
01:32 <Shiz> xe is a bit silly
01:32 <luxio> ik
01:32 <Xe> luxio: sorry, used to sysemctl
01:32 <Xe> systemctl*
01:32 <luxio> * You need to setup /etc/tor/torrc first, see /etc/tor/torrc.sample for example
01:32 <luxio> * ERROR: tor failed to start
01:32 <Xe> oh
01:32 <Shiz> hmm, that seems like a wrong initd then
01:32 <Xe> well
01:32 <Shiz> since torrc is not required
01:33 <Xe> cp /etc/tor/torrc.sample /etc/tor/torrc
01:33 <Xe> Shiz: yeah, i'll fire up my aports VM
01:33 <luxio> now I wait 3 mins?
01:34 <Xe> try now
01:34 <Xe> luxio: *
01:34 <mepholic> anyways TemptorSent, it was about 16 packages I had to build, and I'm willing to maintain them
01:35 <luxio> Xe: try what now?
01:35 <luxio> the command? I did
01:35 <Xe> got a HTTP error?
01:35 <luxio> no, the last message I got is "* Starting tor ..."
01:35 <luxio> [ ok ]
01:36 <luxio> yeah now I got an error
01:36 <Xe> perfect
01:36 <luxio> https://ghostbin.com/paste/37meh
01:36 <Xe> now try to curl the torproject check site
01:37 <luxio> ...was I supposed to leave it running?
01:37 <Xe> tor?
01:37 <luxio> yeah
01:38 <Xe> yeah
01:38 <Xe> that's the point
01:38 <Xe> very light in resource usage
01:38 <luxio> [Apr 23 21:38:16] PERROR torsocks[3558]: socks5 libc connect: Connection refused (in socks5_connect() at socks5.c:185)
01:38 <luxio> curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'check.torproject.org'
01:38 <luxio> that's the error when I do that torsocks curl command
01:38 <luxio> and I'm getting an error when running the `tor` command now
01:38 <luxio> https://ghostbin.com/paste/jvfca
01:40 <Xe> great
01:40 <Xe> looks like i messed up the alpine tor package
01:40 <Shiz> hehe
01:41 <TemptorSent> mepholic Hmm, set it to dump a core.
01:42 <mepholic> the real trick is reproducing it
01:42 <mepholic> i'm also having a hell of a time getting /etc/security/limits.conf to work
01:42 <TemptorSent> Yeah, just run it with the core size unlimited
01:44 <TemptorSent> You probably want to look at musl for the culprit there :/
01:44 <TemptorSent> And the fact that pam is not in use :)
01:44 <mepholic> musl is part of the reason I use alpine
01:44 <mepholic> :)
01:44 <Shiz> that's a big assumption
01:44 <Shiz> to make
01:44 <mepholic> it really is
01:45 <mepholic> considering how complex ardour is
01:45 <Shiz> besides the fact that 9 out of 10 times musl was blamed for something, it turned out it was the application not following the C standards...
01:45 <Shiz> in my experience
01:45 <TemptorSent> /etc/security/limits.conf uses pam, it appears.
01:45 <TemptorSent> Intentional non-support, not a bug.
01:46 <mepholic> aha
01:46 <mepholic> that explains it
01:46 <mepholic> i didn't even think of that
01:46 <Shiz> im not even sure why /etc/security exists if PAM is not installed...
01:46 <TemptorSent> In other words, you may have to use a different mechanism.
01:46 <mepholic> so how would I go about setting my limits
01:46 <Shiz> mepholic: # ulimit -c unlimited
01:47 <Shiz> then start ardour from terminal
01:47 <TemptorSent> For other limits, consider a wrapper or profile to source.
01:48 <TemptorSent> You can also twiddle them in /proc and /sys variously.
01:54 <mepholic> interesting
01:54 <mepholic> good to know
01:54 <mepholic> thanks :)
01:55 <dalias> shiz, :)
01:56 <Shiz> dalias: aside of course from the unwind stuff :p
01:56 <TemptorSent> And irritations like _check functions.
01:56 <Shiz> hmm?
01:57 <TemptorSent> fortify crap in glibc.
01:58 <TemptorSent> Most of what I've found that doesn't work in musl either was broken or ambiguous in the reference implementation.
01:58 <Xe> Shiz: you mean funwind
01:58 <TemptorSent> I think it was stack-unwinding.
01:59 <TemptorSent> Something fugly cropped up in their work on rust IIRC.
02:01 <Shiz> just a bug in musl
02:02 <Shiz> where dl_iterate_phdr wouldn't work on static PIE binaries
02:02 <Shiz> and thus unwinding would crash/fail
02:03 <TemptorSent> Always good for moral ;)
02:04 <dalias> :)
02:04 <dalias> glad we tracked that down
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02:06 <luxio> Xe: thing is though, if I download tor and do "./start-tor-browser.desktop", that doesn't work either
02:06 <luxio> this is the only message I get:
02:06 <luxio> Launching './Browser/start-tor-browser --detach'...
02:19 <TemptorSent> dalias: Things are looking good in musl land, great work :)
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09:31 <ScrumpyJack> thinking of moving from grsec to vanilla on a particular box. do i need to do more than just replace the kernel?
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10:02 <Shiz> ScrumpyJack: modules too
10:13 <ScrumpyJack> ok
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10:21 <ScrumpyJack> i wounder if apk add linux-vanilla would be enough?
10:26 <xentec> actually yes. the kernel select the current modules through flavor definition
10:26 <xentec> you just have to set the right kernel to boot
10:28 <ScrumpyJack> neat, it's running mkinitfs
10:31 <ScrumpyJack> rebooting now
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10:38 <ScrumpyJack> hmm, that didn't work
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14:08 <armin> alpine01:~# apk add ca-certificates
14:08 <armin> (1/1) Installing ca-certificates (20161130-r1)
14:08 <armin> Executing busybox-1.25.1-r0.trigger
14:08 <armin> Executing ca-certificates-20161130-r1.trigger
14:08 <armin> OK: 410 MiB in 56 packages
14:08 <armin> alpine01:~# update-ca-certificates
14:08 <armin> WARNING: ca-certificates.crt does not contain exactly one certificate or CRL: skipping
14:08 <armin> alpine01:~#
14:08 <armin> anyone a clue what to do here?
14:08 <armin> it's working, nevertheless. :)
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14:21 <asdfls> hi, few questions. does the alpine for raspi have the 'fbtft' kernel module inbuilt?
14:22 <asdfls> and is it possible anyhow to run alpine on nanopi/orangepi with allwinner cpu ( http://nanopi.org/NanoPi-M1_Feature.html )
14:25 <asdfls> |r last one, wiki page ( https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/DIY_Fully_working_Alpine_Linux_for_Allwinner_and_Other_ARM_SOCs )
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14:34 <ScrumpyJack> asdfls: yes, fbtft is in
14:35 <asdfls> ScrumpyJack: so lcds like 3.5 tft from NeoSec ( http://www.neosecsolutions.com//products.php?28&cPath=17 ) will work?
14:36 <asdfls> they informed that it's this module that (probably alone?) make this lcd to work
14:38 <dirac1> Hey guys why zsh-completions isn't in the packages, but it is zfs-zsh-completiosn?
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18:29 <feuerteufel> Hello @ all
18:29 <Shiz> hi
18:30 <feuerteufel> Someone here who Knows about this lvm2 error:
18:30 <feuerteufel> http://lists.alpinelinux.org/alpine-user/0124.html
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18:32 <Shiz> ?
18:32 <feuerteufel> I get mostlikly the same prob
18:33 <feuerteufel> I get the Errors during boot
18:33 <feuerteufel> for example:
18:33 <feuerteufel> Error relocating /sbin/vgs: dm_report_group_push: symbol not found
18:34 <Shiz> did you use # apk upgrade -a
18:34 <feuerteufel> Yes, Itried that, but nothing heppened ... still the same
18:35 <feuerteufel> Oh, I'm in 3.5.2
18:36 <Shiz> do you have any edge repositories enabled?
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18:36 <feuerteufel> No
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18:38 <feuerteufel> Only this places:
18:38 <feuerteufel> http://dl-3.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.5/main
18:38 <feuerteufel> http://dl-3.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.5/community
18:38 <feuerteufel> http://download.eisfair.org/v3.5/main
18:38 <feuerteufel> http://download.eisfair.org/v3.5/backports
18:38 <feuerteufel> The only spesial ist that there is XEN running
18:39 <feuerteufel> This Prob heppend after upgrading from 3.4 to 3.5.2
18:40 <feuerteufel> btw. it's not a Big one I just get this errors during boot
18:40 <Shiz> ah
18:40 <Shiz> if it's during boot, you may just need to regenerate your initramfs
18:40 <Shiz> # mkinitfs
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18:41 <feuerteufel> just a sec, I'll try
18:48 <feuerteufel> Great!! The errors are gone thanks a lot!!
18:53 <Shiz> :)
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19:12 <sigtrm> Hey, when storing config files for a raspberry pi, should I use mmcblk0p1 which is the boot partition or use the mmcblk0p2 which is the main storage device?
19:20 <feuerteufel> sigtrm: On my raspi, the first one is mounted to "/boot" the otherone to "/"
19:20 <feuerteufel> Hope it help's
19:20 <sigtrm> Thank you
19:20 <sigtrm> It's the same here
19:21 <sigtrm> But during the setup-apline scipt it asks where to save the config files
19:21 <sigtrm> I have no idea what it is talking about
19:21 <sigtrm> The default is mmcblk0p1 which is the /boot
19:21 <sigtrm> Is this correct?
19:21 <sigtrm> Or best practice?
19:23 <feuerteufel> I'm sorry, on my raspi run's Raspian
19:24 <sigtrm> It's okay, I appreciate the help
19:27 <tw> if you're going to use them for a later install, you should back them up off-device.
19:31 <sigtrm> okay
19:34 <sigtrm> Thanks
19:41 <feuerteufel> cu
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21:57 <ryonaloli> <@kaniini> ryonaloli: series question do you actually use alpine
21:58 <ryonaloli> yes. i have a mini-cluster of 15 or so computers. i run alpine on them.
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22:39 <kaniini> we were just wondering ;)
22:50 <ryonaloli> thought i was in here to troll or something? :P
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23:23 <kaniini> i still think that :)
23:24 <scv> does anybody actually use alpine
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23:24 <scv> or do they just take part in the shared experience
23:24 <kpcyrd> we're all here because of docker images, right?
23:24 <scv> because of wut
23:25 <Nobabs27> I do
23:25 <Nobabs27> scv ^
23:26 <Nobabs27> for a server anyway
23:26 <Nobabs27> never used docker once xd
23:26 <scv> the only way to do it
23:26 <Nobabs27> ?
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23:29 <darkfader> haha
23:29 <darkfader> so, uh, alpine is in docker because it's quite good
23:29 <darkfader> but docker shows a very small subset
23:29 <scv> what is this docker you folks keep talking about
23:29 <darkfader> so yeah, like, 15% of the awesomeness
23:30 <darkfader> oh
23:30 <darkfader> it's like tar
23:30 <scv> /s
23:30 <darkfader> :ppp
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23:37 <ryonaloli> kaniini: hey, trolls need alpine too!
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