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00:02 <parazyd> works for me™
00:02 <nekocentral> yea for me its a 50/50 chance that it works
00:03 <nekocentral> on some VM it works on some not
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01:42 <parazyd> it could be grsec blocking things in the chroot
01:42 <parazyd> but this stuff works
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04:09 <TML> is there anything a new-comer to Alpine can do to help arrive at 3.6?
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06:33 <ncl> Which NTP client to run? ('busybox', 'openntpd', 'chrony' or 'none') [chrony] openntpd
06:33 <ncl> ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints:
06:33 <ncl> openntpd (missing):
06:33 <ncl> required by: world[openntpd]
06:33 <ncl> * rc-update: service `openntpd' does not exist
06:34 <ncl> 2 years later, install script still broken?
06:34 <ncl> :>
06:35 <ncl> How would you like to use it? ('sys', 'data', 'lvm' or '?' for help) [?] sys
06:35 <ncl> ERROR: unsatisfiable constraints:
06:35 <ncl> oh, okay
06:37 <asie> don't worry
06:37 <asie> solutions are only an unsatisfiable constraint away
06:40 <ncl> back then i just assumed it was just because it was a small project, but now I actually see people mentioning it
06:40 <ncl> and the install scripts are still nonsensical
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06:53 <kaniini> ncl: did you set up apk mirrors?
06:57 <ncl> yes, it turned out the dns i selected wasn't working
07:00 <kaniini> anyway, a new installer is on the todo for 3.7
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07:01 <asie> ncl: it's still kind of a small project
07:02 <kaniini> yes, lots of opportunity to make large impacts here by contributing
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10:05 <das_ofce> hello hello.. what is rotating messages? :)
10:05 <das_ofce> I have logrotate.. but that is in cron and not in use as I can see..
10:08 <das_ofce> it looks like syslogd is doing that itself..
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10:25 <nymacro> hi Alpinists(?)
10:26 <nymacro> is there a more up-to-date guide to building a custom iso? Following the instructions https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/How_to_make_a_custom_ISO_image leaves me with an iso that boots me into recovery mode
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11:35 <nsz> can it be that there are no cjk fonts in alpine? (other than bitmap fonts)
11:37 <asie> no ipafont?
11:37 <asie> https://github.com/alpinelinux/aports/commit/cf2128830a60c4acdf7c702ce84eba30fdc666b1
11:37 <asie> nsz: try font-ipa
11:37 <asie> i don't think it covers all of CJK though
11:37 <asie> just the J part
11:37 <asie> also, it's in testing
11:39 <nsz> asie: thanks ipa font worked
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12:54 <thunfisch> I can't mount any nfs shares. installed nfs-utils, try mounting with nfs type, mount just hangs without displaying anything, need to SIGKILL it. nfs-server is on debian and perfectly working (serves 10+ other machines)
12:54 <thunfisch> any idea what's going wrong there?
12:54 <thunfisch> using 3.5
12:55 <thunfisch> wow, not even SIGKILL terminates the mount command. wtf.
12:58 <thunfisch> ah, turns out busybox does not support mounting nfs shares with locking. needed to supply nolock option.
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13:26 <Shiz> hehe
13:26 <Shiz> sounds like fun
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14:47 <Xe> thunfisch: the fun part is that when a process is unkillable by SIGKILL, it's stuck in a non-returning syscall
14:49 <Shiz> something something hell upon whoever thought it was a good to implement nfs in the kernel
14:57 <darkfader> you're aware of the diff between hard and soft mounts?
14:57 <darkfader> the intr flag?
14:57 <darkfader> the idea of transaction safety being the default
14:57 <darkfader> and kernel io states?
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14:58 <darkfader> not to say that the linux nfs implementation isn't the worst ever made
14:58 <darkfader> becasue it is
14:58 <darkfader> but the main thing is that people run it quite misconfigured to their purpose
14:59 <darkfader> the defaults make sense if you want to run a database on it, or any such. to protect from idiotic dev's code
14:59 <darkfader> but in any other case you'll not want a hard mount
14:59 <darkfader> and if you don't use a hard mount and actually set up the timeouts etc
14:59 <darkfader> then it'll work as you expect
14:59 <darkfader> if you configure it different from what you want, it'll behave different from you want
15:00 <darkfader> and if you just use defaults that are wrong for you, you can call it devops
15:00 <darkfader> but it'll not work
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15:53 <ncl> why was the tor package removed?
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15:57 <ncl> libc issues?
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15:59 <pickfire> What?
15:59 <pickfire> Why is tor removed?
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16:00 <pickfire> ncl: When is it removed?
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16:00 <pickfire> nsz: There is chinese font. I have added wqy-zenhei back then.
16:00 <pickfire> Too lazy to add wqy-microhei.
16:01 <pickfire> But I don't see any pinyin IME in alpine. T_T
16:01 <pickfire> One of the reason I dual boot with arch.
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17:30 <Shiz> ncl: ?
17:30 <Shiz> https://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/tree/community/tor?h=master
17:30 <Shiz> tor hasn't gone anywhere
17:31 <Shiz> http://pkgs.alpinelinux.org/package/v3.5/community/x86_64/tor
17:35 <ncl> /community/
17:36 <Shiz> and? :P
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17:36 <Shiz> it was always community
17:39 <Shiz> well, testing before, but you know what I mean
17:40 <ncl> forgot about repos that have categories like that
17:43 <Shiz> :P
17:44 <ncl> are there options to build packages from source, for things like openssl cipher patented ciphers
17:46 <Shiz> https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Include:Setup_your_system_and_account_for_building_packages
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17:54 <ncl> do you have to use lvm for a luks root
17:55 <Shiz> no
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18:00 <ncl> is there just like, a tarball i can throw on the disk like gentoo or
18:01 <Shiz> sure
18:01 <Shiz> https://alpinelinux.org/downloads/
18:01 <Shiz> the minirootfs here :P
18:01 <Shiz> it won't be complete though
18:04 <vidr> Hi, anyone have any clue about this issue: https://forum.alpinelinux.org/forum/networking/network-not-working-boot ?
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18:17 <ncl> core:/# setup-lbu /mnt
18:17 <ncl> /media//mnt: not a directory
18:17 <ncl> lol
18:20 <ncl> this script really wants to use /media specifically
18:21 <ncl> nice
18:22 <ncl> who wrote this
18:29 <Shiz> that's probably because the initramfs automatically mounts stuff at /media (i think)
18:29 <Shiz> so it makes no sense to do it elsewhere else it won't be found anyway
18:30 <ncl> isn't setup-lbu how the rootfs is setup during the install
18:30 <Shiz> setup-lbu is only relevant if you're planning to run from RAM
18:30 <Shiz> it's where your local changes will be stored (and loaded by the initramfs)
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19:40 <ncl> I'm pretty sure my machine isnt going to boot back up
19:43 <Shiz> what did you use to install?
19:45 <ncl> I wanted a dmcrypt root on gpt
19:45 <ncl> i think it just booted to the liveusb again
19:47 <ncl> oh, great, gummiboot didn't even work apparently
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20:02 <ncl> and still doesnt
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21:47 <purf> question regarding ipv4 on with the following error:
21:47 <purf> udhcpc: socket(AF_PACKET,2,8): Address family not supported by protocol
21:47 <purf> util-03:~# modprobe AF_PACKET
21:47 <purf> modprobe: FATAL: Module AF_PACKET not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.52-0-grsec
21:47 <purf> util-03:~# uname -a
21:47 <purf> Linux util-03 4.4.52-0-grsec #1-Alpine SMP Tue Feb 28 10:15:40 GMT 2017 x86_64 Linux
21:47 <purf> util-03:~# cat /etc/alpine-release
21:47 <purf> 3.5.2
21:49 <purf> damn, it's been awhile since I've irc'd, didn't realize that would appear as a bunch of messages :)
21:50 <Shiz> modprobe af_packet
21:50 <Shiz> no caps
21:50 <Shiz> but id on't think that's it
21:51 <purf> modprobe: FATAL: Module af_packet not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.52-0-grsec
21:51 <Shiz> anyway, this is an ipv6 thing
21:51 <Shiz> try modprobe ipv6
21:51 <TemptorSent> ls -lR /lib/modules/4.4.52-0-grsec
21:51 <purf> modprobe: FATAL: Module af_packet not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.52-0-grsec
21:51 <purf> oops
21:51 <purf> wrong buffer
21:51 <TemptorSent> Do you have modules?
21:52 <TemptorSent> This might have been broken by a bug that was just very recently fixed in apk.
21:52 <purf> so, is there an apk package I need to install?
21:53 <purf> ls -lR /lib/modules/4.4.52-0-grsec produces a bunch of output
21:53 <TemptorSent> If you're missing the modules, you probably need to update the kernel to get a set.
21:53 <purf> okay, I'll try that.. thanks
21:53 <purf> weird thing is that the installer was able to lease a v4 address
21:53 <TemptorSent> Both apk and the kernel packaging were somewhat broken.
21:53 <purf> ah, that makes sense
21:54 <TemptorSent> Yeah, it will have ipv4 support, but not the filters
21:54 <Shiz> this isn't related to filters
21:54 <TemptorSent> AF_PACKET
21:55 <TemptorSent> Everything but the bare base IPV4 is compiled as a module IIRC,
21:55 <purf> apk update && apk upgrade should upgrade the kernel, correct? (if one is available)
21:55 <Shiz> fd = xsocket(PF_PACKET, SOCK_DGRAM, htons(ETH_P_IP));
21:55 <Shiz> this is the call in question
21:55 <Shiz> it should not be doing htons...
21:56 <Shiz> purf: add -a to # apk upgrade to be sure
21:56 <TemptorSent> So the installer had what it needed, but upon booting with the installed kernel without modules, it can't load what's needed.
21:56 <purf> thanks
21:57 <purf> heh -- need an internet connection to upgrade via internets, duh
21:57 <purf> I guess I'll have to wait for the bugfix :)
21:57 <TemptorSent> Hmmm, yeah - not sure why the htons there -- shouldn't it already be in fixed byte order?
21:57 <TemptorSent> actually, just running update-kernel may work...
21:57 <TemptorSent> Twice.
21:58 <TemptorSent> Is the apk still in your cache?
21:58 <purf> unsure, let me give it a try
21:58 <Shiz> i don't think it's a kernel issue
21:59 <Shiz> purf: can you strace udhcpc?
21:59 <purf> sure, let me try
21:59 <TemptorSent> I think he got bit by the apk bug that wipes modules for the active kernel.
21:59 <purf> nah, no strace, sorry
22:00 <TemptorSent> If nothing in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel nothing is going to be happy thats not already loaded from the initfs.
22:00 <purf> I'm using the virt distribution (running as a xen domU on an alpine dom0)
22:00 <ncl> https://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/5730
22:01 <Shiz> https://bugs.alpinelinux.org/issues/6516
22:01 <Shiz> purf: ^
22:01 <purf> I saw 6516
22:01 <Shiz> can you
22:01 <purf> "Once the module was added and loaded dhcp worked fine." can't load the module that isn't there but I guess that's why you're suggesting to load the iso and try installing from there
22:02 <Shiz> find /lib/modules -name af_packet.ko ?
22:02 <TemptorSent> Hmm, bugs.alpinelinux isn't resolving for me at the moment for some reason.
22:02 <purf> util-03:/lib/modules/4.4.59-0-grsec# find /lib/modules -name af_packet.ko
22:02 <purf> util-03:/lib/modules/4.4.59-0-grsec#
22:02 <Shiz> sounds like a failed kernel upgrade then
22:03 <Shiz> try to get the linux-grsec .apk on something you have
22:03 <TemptorSent> There it goes! Something in DNS is acting wonky for alpinelinux.org
22:03 <Shiz> and installing it manuall
22:03 <Shiz> y
22:03 <purf> fun
22:03 <Shiz> http://nl.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.5/main/x86_64/linux-grsec-4.4.59-r0.apk
22:04 <Shiz> specifically
22:04 <TemptorSent> Should be in /var/cache/apk
22:04 <Shiz> presuming x86_64
22:04 <purf> yep
22:04 <TemptorSent> No net :)
22:04 <Shiz> tar -tf /var/cache/apk/linux-grsec-4.4.59-r0.apk | grep af_packet then
22:07 <purf> all I've got in /var/cache/apk is APKINDEX.c51f8f92.tar.gz
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22:09 <purf> I'm confused why the installation failed if it had net access, should just be copying over from installation media?
22:09 <purf> unless that's the bug
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22:55 <TemptorSent> purf - Check the repo on the boot media for the file.
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23:01 <purf> TemptorSent: thanks, will do
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