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00:20 <ivan> ** (ArgumentError) cannot inject attribute @column_spec into function/macro because cannot escape #Function<8.91973536 in file:lib/machine_manager/cli.ex>. The supported values are: lists, tuples, maps, atoms, numbers, bitstrings, PIDs and remote functions in the format &Mod.fun/arity
00:20 <ivan> oops
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00:24 <ivan> 90% of the time I think I want to do @module_attr I just want to pass more arguments around
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00:30 <hahuang65> hmmm how do I install the 1.3-rc for Phoenix?
00:34 <hahuang65> nm, figured it out
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07:16 <nyaray> 1 == 1.0 holds, whereas 1 === 1.0 doesn't, but is there any x such that :foo == x holds?
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07:17 <ivan> nyaray: :foo? :-)
07:18 <nyaray> ... that is not :foo
07:18 <ivan> I don't think so
07:18 <nyaray> oh wait, atoms only compare true to themselves
07:19 <nyaray> exceeeeept :true === true
07:19 <nyaray> since true is just an alias
07:19 <harfangk> yup
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07:26 <Nicd-> nyaray: :"Elixir.Foo" == Foo
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07:49 <besc> I want to use a simple_one_for_one supervisor to be able to add processes later, but start out with no children initially because the needed information to start the child processes is not yet available at this time. What should I do here?
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07:53 <micmus> besc: what you described is exactly how simple_one_for_one works
07:53 <micmus> no children are started initially, only dynamically when you ask for it
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07:54 <besc> micmus: The initial child does not get started immediately then?
07:54 <micmus> no - it's a template for future children
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07:56 <besc> I see, so it just provides some information like how it should be restarted and later I can just pass the args needed for the individual processes as usual?
07:58 <micmus> yes
07:58 <besc> Makes perfect sense actually, thanks micmus!
07:59 <micmus> the simple_one_for_one is completely different from the other types - nearly every function in supervisor works in a different way in that case
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08:07 <nyaray> Nicd-: I'm aware of the namespacing hack, but thanks :)
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08:10 <Nicd-> nyaray: you asked if there was any x... :) I just modified your atom a bit
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09:42 <asabil> besc, micmus, are you sure you need simple_one_for_one ?
09:42 <asabil> you only need that if you are dealing with a large number of "anonymous" processes
09:42 <asabil> for example client connections
09:45 <besc> I don't know the number ahead of time and it can change later on, so maybe I should use another strategy but I wouldn't know which
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09:48 <micmus> simple_one_for_one is useful whenever you're starting processes dynamically and want them to be a part of the supervision tree
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10:41 <shadowjack> What are your thoughts about Flow and GenStage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUrfcBwkm7w
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11:29 <celyr> Is there a release date for phoenix 1.3 ? I tought it was already out since there is a lot of noise about that
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11:34 <ciawal> rc 0 is out
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12:15 <* nox> is now diamond in Overwatch.
12:16 <ciawal> shit game
12:16 <nox> [citation needed]
12:19 <ciawal> – ciaran, 2017
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12:36 <craigp> man, ecto preloads...
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12:41 <micmus> craigp: is that a sad or a happy man? :P
12:44 <craigp> micmus: troubled
12:45 <craigp> i have a service that has_one address, has_many rooms, a room has a fee .. in the repl, when loading services, i tried `preload: [:address, {:rooms, :fee}]`
12:45 <craigp> seemed to work fine
12:46 <craigp> put it in my code, breaks
12:46 <ciawal> [address, rooms: :fee] ?
12:46 <craigp> I've tried enumerable combinations to no avail, even that ciawal
12:46 <fishcakez> what breaks?
12:46 <craigp> if i do that, address fails to preload
12:46 <ciawal> oh wait
12:47 <craigp> if I break it up into two Repo.preload statements it works
12:47 <ciawal> service.address, service.rooms, room.fee ?
12:47 <ciawal> is that correct?
12:47 <fishcakez> craigp: update to db_connection 1.1.2
12:47 <craigp> i tried using a join and specifying [:address, [rooms: {r, :fee}]]
12:47 <craigp> fishcakez: ok, will try thanks
12:48 <fishcakez> assuming this fails in tests but not in dev
12:48 <fishcakez> i think thats what you suggested anyway
12:50 <craigp> fishcakez: yeah, upgraded deps and it works :(
12:50 <craigp> thanks man
12:50 <fishcakez> why the sad face?
12:50 <craigp> thought I was going insane
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12:51 <craigp> only sad because I've been banging my head against that for a while now
12:52 <craigp> on the other hand, yay, I wasn't misreading the docs :D
12:52 <fishcakez> if you get weird behaviour in tests: `ownership_log: :warn`in your repo config
12:52 <fishcakez> then run the test
12:53 <craigp> thanks, I'll make a note of that!
12:54 <craigp> at first i didn't think it was isolated to tests, i thought i was messing something up
12:54 <fishcakez> it will explain sandbox behaviour
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12:54 <fishcakez> what was happening is that parallel preloads were getting a fresh sandbox when using auto sandbox mode
12:55 <fishcakez> so if 2+ preloads outside a transaction then would be empty
12:55 <craigp> ok, makes sense now that you say it .. whatever i preloaded first would be there, the other wouldn't
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13:23 <celyr> I'm willing, just for experimentation purposes to implement a chat in phoenix
13:24 <celyr> up to your knoweladge how would you implement it ? No fancy things just username and words in a single channel
13:25 <benwilson512> celyr: phoenix chat example is out on github somewhere
13:26 <benwilson512> I believe the phoenix guides cover it too
13:26 <benwilson512> chat system is sort of phoenix channels 101
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13:26 <celyr> https://github.com/chrismccord/phoenix_chat_example ?
13:26 <acscherp> it's indeed the defacto demo
13:27 <Exagone313> Hi, how would you communicate between an elixir app and a php script (both running locally), as testing purpose? I'm thinking to an AF_UNIX socket. Another idea that comes in mind? Thanks
13:28 <gazler> celyr: That's it. Also http://www.phoenixframework.org/docs/channels
13:28 <celyr> So it's basically javascript
13:28 <celyr> It's like to write a client-server with the client written in javascript
13:28 <gazler> celyr: That depends on the client you want to use. If you are doing it in the browser then yes.
13:30 <micmus> Exagone313: unix domain socket support in erlang is not (yet) good, so I would advise against it. If you can have the php script started by elixir, a port might be the perfect solution for you https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/Port.html
13:30 <celyr> gazler, what would be the benefit to use phoenix if not to use it by browser ? I mean at the point I would just use gen_server right ?
13:30 <gazler> celyr: You may have an Android or iOS client for example
13:30 <gazler> https://github.com/davidstump/SwiftPhoenixClient https://github.com/eoinsha/JavaPhoenixChannels
13:31 <Nicd-> Exagone313: if they are two separate long running applications, maybe ZeroMQ or similar?
13:31 <celyr> gazler, wow.
13:33 <celyr> gazler, Knowing that eventually I'll extend this experiment and that I'll use the browser do you suggest to me to use some framework ?
13:33 <celyr> gazler, I mean like react
13:33 <Exagone313> the php script is "run" by the http server, and the elixir app is like a daemon.
13:34 <celyr> gazler, or bootstrap
13:34 <gazler> celyr: That depends on what you know really. From a phoenix channels standpoint, it doesn't matter.
13:34 <gazler> If you use react, redux is good for triggering actions from websocket events.
13:34 <gazler> I believe there is also a phoenix channels library for elm.
13:34 <Nicd-> Exagone313: so the PHP is very short lived, lifetime of one request?
13:34 <gazler> http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/fbonetti/elm-phoenix-socket/latest
13:35 <Exagone313> yes
13:36 <Nicd-> Exagone313: I would probably either go for a message queue like ZeroMQ or RabbitMQ or expose an internal HTTP interface from Elixir (if it's not very high performance)
13:36 <gazler> celyr: Bootstrap is a CSS framework, so not really in the same space as react. It can complement it.
13:37 <celyr> gazler, as you may see I'm a bit lost, it's a huge world and I'm trying to do a very simple thing in a very easy way
13:37 <benwilson512> celyr: the guides and the books are the place to start
13:38 <celyr> benwilson512, ok :) I've the book but I'm more a learning while doing than learning while reading kind of guy I'm afraid
13:38 <benwilson512> the book is written in a very hands on style
13:38 <benwilson512> it walks you through building an app of increasing complexity
13:39 <Exagone313> thanks, RabbitMQ seems the way to go
13:40 <celyr> benwilson512, I'll try to follow it to the very end
13:40 <celyr> benwilson512, I used just to seek info
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14:33 <ciawal> https://github.com/mtwilliams/bourne
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17:28 <Yonk_> Even though this room is elixir-lang in phoenix contrib documentation it says to come here for feature requests.
17:28 <Yonk_> It's not really a feature I thinks it's better as an issue but wanted to make sure I was doing the right thing.
17:29 <Yonk_> The guides need for Phoenix v1.3 need an update in some places like "Adding Pages" has directory trees that need updating.
17:29 <Yonk_> sorry for typos O_o
17:32 <Yonk_> I'll submit an issue to open a pr
17:33 <micmus> I think the guides and docs are going to be generally reworked before releasing 1.3 final. But I'm sure the phoenix team will warmly welcome everybody that wants to contribute to that effort
17:33 <harfangk> phoenix guide has not been in good maintenance recently
17:33 <chrismccord> Yonk_ : I will be reworking the guides as soon as 1.3 goes final
17:33 <harfangk> my guess is that main contributers like lancehalvorsen are focusing on reworking it in line with 1.3
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17:34 <harfangk> so let's wait
17:34 <harfangk> oh chrismccord can i ask you something? Would it be okay if i translated your article Phoenix is Not Rails into Korean?
17:36 <Yonk_> ok cool. I will hold off.
17:36 <Yonk_> thank you
17:37 <embik> just got my copy of "Programming Elixir 1.3", kinda excited to dive into it :-)
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17:37 <superherointj> embik, also do exercism.
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17:38 <harfangk> yeah that book is pretty nice
17:39 <embik> superherointj: TIL about exercism, thanks! I'm trying to get some basic Elixir skills up before "Programming Phoenix 1.3" is out
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18:56 <Gasher> Hello, I get the following error when trying to 'mix local.hex' on Ubuntu 16.10: http://pastebin.com/7YWnXCyD
18:57 <gazler> Gasher: How did you install erlang?
18:57 <Gasher> I've installed everything from the repo
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18:57 <Gasher> gazler,
18:58 <gazler> Gasher: which repo?
18:58 <Gasher> just default distro's repo
18:59 <gazler> Gasher: Have you install erlang-inets?
18:59 <gazler> The way certain linux package managers package up erlang is weird.
18:59 <gazler> I'd either use https://www.erlang-solutions.com/resources/download.html or https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf-erlang
19:00 <gazler> Or do something like sudo apt-get install erlang-*
19:00 <Gasher> I've installed it and it works now, thanks :)
19:01 <Gasher> in my experience, package management rarely isn't weird
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19:10 <DavidAntaramian> benwilson512: hey, is the ExAWS library somehow generating files dynamically before packaging them to hex?
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19:11 <DavidAntaramian> having the strangest error. Circle kept throwing errors about a redefinition, but the file the error was in doesn't exist in the ExAWS Github repo
19:11 <DavidAntaramian> but it _does_ exist if I look in ExAWS under /deps/ex_aws, and then I downloaded the tarball directly from Hex and it's definitely in there
19:12 <DavidAntaramian> https://gist.github.com/DavidAntaramian/9dcca7e0356a89c7a85b8c19e42a31e4
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19:23 <benwilson512> DavidAntaramian: nope, no generation
19:23 <benwilson512> hmmm
19:23 <DavidAntaramian> this is really strange :/
19:23 <benwilson512> did you use a git dep briefly?
19:24 <benwilson512> I would rm rf your build and deps directories
19:25 <benwilson512> DavidAntaramian: I know what it is
19:25 <benwilson512> hex uses local files
19:25 <benwilson512> I have that file locally, but not checked in yet
19:25 <DavidAntaramian> ahhh
19:25 <benwilson512> crap sorry
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19:25 <DavidAntaramian> no worries, these things happen
19:26 <DavidAntaramian> glad it was something so simple
19:26 <benwilson512> aight, upgrade to 1.1.2
19:26 <benwilson512> my bad
19:26 <DavidAntaramian> thanks
19:28 <benwilson512> Gasher: I highly recommend looking at something like `asdf` for installing erlang
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19:35 <Gasher> benwilson512, what do you mean?
19:35 <benwilson512> Gasher: https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf-erlang
19:36 <benwilson512> does a good job of installing each version without weirdness
19:36 <Gasher> okay, thanks
19:36 <Gasher> I actually installed erlang-parsetools as well, but it didn't give me /usr/lib/erlang/lib/parsetools-2.1.1/include/yeccpre.hrl o.0
19:37 <benwilson512> the OS package managers generally do a bad job
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19:38 <Gasher> yeah, I know, but as a newbie, I don't like to use too much new software
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19:45 <travis-ci> elixir-lang/elixir#13801 (master - 8b0b15e : James Fish): The build passed.
19:45 <travis-ci> Change view : https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/compare/c4663ec885f7...8b0b15e329cb
19:45 <travis-ci> Build details : https://travis-ci.org/elixir-lang/elixir/builds/209867487
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20:48 <Dave___> hola! Hopefully quick question. I submitted a PR, and it seems it died on a transient error. https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/pull/5860
20:48 <Dave___> Can someone rekick the CI, or should I just resubmit?
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22:32 <guest___> sitting in on an elixir lecture right now. First introduction. Any recommended resources I should get into to start? Rails and JS background
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22:35 <grapheti> guest___, if you want to learn Elixir, I'd suggesting learning Elixir.
22:36 <grapheti> and making projects with it
22:36 <micmus> guest___: the getting started guide is a good first step http://elixir-lang.org/getting-started/introduction.html, later I would recommend the books "programming elixir" or "Elixir in Action". Alternatively there are various resources online
22:38 <grapheti> http://elixirschool.com/, blah
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22:46 <guest___> great. thanks
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